| Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp | |
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+5Tommy LoneQuincy Chrono Mudkipz RWK996 9 posters |
Who'd win on a 1 vs 1 | A Lead Machamp | | 56% | [ 9 ] | Darkrai | | 44% | [ 7 ] |
| Total Votes : 16 | | Poll closed |
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RWK996 Noob
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| Subject: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:21 pm | |
| we were have a dicussion/argument on the chatbox and i want to find out your opinions on whos better so vote away. | |
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Mudkipz Noob
Number of posts : 23 Location : ireland Friend Code : 4813 3667 6375 Registration date : 2010-11-28
| Subject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:24 pm | |
| 1 vote for machamp.we know who that is right!! | |
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Mudkipz Noob
Number of posts : 23 Location : ireland Friend Code : 4813 3667 6375 Registration date : 2010-11-28
| Subject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:27 pm | |
| i should have had a battle with lonequincy to decide | |
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Chrono Admin
Number of posts : 1504 Age : 28 Location : Space Ribbons : Friend Code : 0000 0000 0000 Registration date : 2008-09-21
| Subject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:25 pm | |
| indecidable
1) it has a suppiror speed 2) Darkrais psychic+ sp attack + (iteam?)+ machamps weakness to psychic = yer machamp is pretty much going to loose...
but then
if machamp has a focus sash then
1) NO guard+ Supirrior attack+ STAB+ Darkrais weakness to fighting + Dynamic punch
so it all depend on if mchamp has a focus sash or not.... if it does then yea machamp FTW and if it doesn't then LOL DARKIRA WILL KICK ITS A$$
unless darkrai also has a focus sash then you go down to would darkrai hit its self in confusion or not..... and thats a differnt matter... | |
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LoneQuincy Pokemon Lover
Number of posts : 180 Friend Code : White: 3697-5947-3122 Registration date : 2010-07-22
| Subject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:51 pm | |
| No, even with a sash Lead Machamp carries Bullet Punch
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Tommy Gym Leader
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| Subject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:38 pm | |
| Lead Machamp will win. Machamp will actually lose if it has focus sash because Darkrai will dark void and 2HKO Machamp with focus blast when it's asleep. EDIT: Darkrai has a slight chance of winning; dark pulse has a 20% chance to flinch, if it flinches, then Darkrai can KO on the next turn. | |
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Chrono Admin
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| Subject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp Sat Dec 11, 2010 2:12 pm | |
| ok so if machamp has no guard
hypnosis is 100% + bad dream+ darkrai gets a free turn= machamp is bye bye
i think darkrai would win even if machoke has lum berry...if darkrai had max defence and machamp has max attack bullet punch still wouldnt do anything....and if machamp used dynamic punch on a max hp darkrai it still would leave darkrai enough hp to kill machamp
so my vote is to darkrai... | |
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Tommy Gym Leader
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| Subject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:00 pm | |
| - Blue wrote:
- ok so if machamp has no guard
hypnosis is 100% + bad dream+ darkrai gets a free turn= machamp is bye bye
i think darkrai would win even if machoke has lum berry...if darkrai had max defence and machamp has max attack bullet punch still wouldnt do anything....and if machamp used dynamic punch on a max hp darkrai it still would leave darkrai enough hp to kill machamp
so my vote is to darkrai... Dynamic Punch would bring Darkrai with a sash to 1HP, then bullet punch to kill. Even if it does take a dynamic punch, and then a bullet punch, Darkrai will be confused. I guess there will be 50% chance to hit Machamp to K.O, but who would put HP and DEF evs on Darkrai anyways. | |
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Chrono Admin
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| Subject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:15 pm | |
| ok so basically this arguemt comes down to what iteam darkria and machamp are holding... or if darkrai is affeced by confusion or not... | |
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LoneQuincy Pokemon Lover
Number of posts : 180 Friend Code : White: 3697-5947-3122 Registration date : 2010-07-22
| Subject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:25 pm | |
| Some Damage Calc: Standard Darkrai vs Standard Lead Machamp All IVs will be set to 31 No hax applied
Darkrai@ Focus Sash Timid EVs: 252 sp att, 4 sp def, 252 spd HP= 281 Defense= 216 Special Attack= 369
Machamp@ Lum Berry Adamant EVs: 240 hp, 248 att, 16 sp def, 4 spd HP= 381 Attack= 392 Special Defense= 210
Darkrai uses Dark Pulse: 19.95% min - 23.62% max Machamp uses Dynamic Punch: 138.79% min - 164.41% max Darkrai survives with 1 HP and Machamp finishes it off with Bullet Punch Winner: Machamp
Darkrai uses Focus Blast: 39.9% min - 46.98% max Repeat Dynamic Punch calc. Repeat Bullet Punch Winner: Machamp
Same Stats but Darkrai's now holding Life Orb
Darkrai uses Dark Pulse: 25.98% min- 30.71% max Repeat Dynamic Punch calc. Winner: Machamp
Darkrai uses Focus Blast: 51.71% min - 60.89% max (2HKO) Repeat Dynamic Punch calc. Winner: Machamp | |
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dialga3021 Pokemon Lover
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| Subject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:41 am | |
| obviously darkrai i mean all it has to do is use dark void then nightmare and finally dream eater and the machamp is gone | |
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Chrono Admin
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| Subject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:58 am | |
| yer but were saying if machamp has a lum berry what would the out come be then.. | |
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[SV]Matt Noob
Number of posts : 2 Age : 24 Location : England Friend Code : 4598 6557 5388 Registration date : 2010-12-23
| Subject: Machamp Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:21 am | |
| Machamp because Darkrai is an UBER | |
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dialga3021 Pokemon Lover
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| Subject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp Fri Dec 24, 2010 5:06 am | |
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[SV]Matt Noob
Number of posts : 2 Age : 24 Location : England Friend Code : 4598 6557 5388 Registration date : 2010-12-23
| Subject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp Fri Dec 24, 2010 5:06 am | |
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Chrono Admin
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| Subject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp Fri Dec 24, 2010 6:31 am | |
| - [SV]Matt wrote:
- Machamp because Darkrai is an UBER
that would support darkrai cause UBERs are stronger than all the other tires... (little spam for everyone 500th post ) | |
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SHREDDER(Dragon) Rookie
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| Subject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:16 am | |
| darkrai because it knows dark void or hypnosis then its ability then it uses dream eater 2 round victory
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Joseph Noob
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| Subject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:44 pm | |
| ARE U ALL OK? (you need 2 pay attention 2 pkmn types) Darkrai is a GHOST/DARK like spiritomb ghost types are unaffected by normal and FIGHTING type moves while its weak 2 psycic but the dark stops the psycic while darks weakness is fighting (which has no effect still) so unless machamp has foresight it will get slaughtered because it cant do super effective moves | |
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Tommy Gym Leader
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| Subject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:26 pm | |
| - THESHREDDER101 wrote:
- darkrai because it knows dark void or hypnosis then its ability then it uses dream eater 2 round victory
Lead Machamps carry Lum Berry - Joseph wrote:
- ARE U ALL OK? (you need 2 pay attention 2 pkmn types) Darkrai is a GHOST/DARK like spiritomb ghost types are unaffected by normal and FIGHTING type moves while its weak 2 psycic but the dark stops the psycic while darks weakness is fighting (which has no effect still) so unless machamp has foresight it will get slaughtered because it cant do super effective moves
Darkrai is dark only not dark ghost lol So Machamp still wins | |
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LoneQuincy Pokemon Lover
Number of posts : 180 Friend Code : White: 3697-5947-3122 Registration date : 2010-07-22
| Subject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:18 pm | |
| Looks like someone here should take his own advise about checking types. Only Ghost/Darks in the game are Sableye and Spiritomb | |
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